i have been struggling over a decision about evil for some time.
i went from thinking the wbts uses too much old testament laws to the old gb guys were stuck in old beliefs that will change to wondering if there is an evil intent here.. this revolved not so much regarding dogma such as trinity-hell-jesus is michael etc.
then does this indicate that satan is in some way involved in these actions.. i have the same dilema when i consider the disallowing of transplants and the deaths this caused and then later allowing them with out even an apology.
I think errors of men personally ....
Not sure about the Satan thing matey. I have no insight on such matters.
Try not to get so hung up on it all. Be nice to people & the earth, be reasonable & thoughtful where possible and keep reading and searching for knowledge and the truth.
Be kind to yourself
ok......fess up....who's got em and who wants em?
i myself have two tattoos ( i will post pics of them later tonight).
i have one on my shoulder - it the face of a cat, i call it my egyptian cat because the face is very concise.
Well as long as you promise peaceloveharmony then I suppose I can live with your metal bits
One guy I saw on the bus the other day had about 10 rings through his lip and another 7 or so in each ear. Along with 3 in each eyebrow and a spike coming out of his chin .... needless to say he had two seats to himself on the bus. How the hell does he pass through customs with that lot? He probably had one stapling his tender member together as well ..... shiver
reading different topics, im confused as to the jw's now stance on blood transfusions.
are they now accepting it?
do they still carry the no blood card?.
Thanks for that link about blood. Its about time I had a look into this again myself. I always felt uncomfortable with that no blood ruling and its good to be up to date on internal policy ..... its the only way I can regain my own mind on matters !
I'm still pretty sure the Bible meant blood spilt and then used as part of sacrificial ritual myself.
ok......fess up....who's got em and who wants em?
i myself have two tattoos ( i will post pics of them later tonight).
i have one on my shoulder - it the face of a cat, i call it my egyptian cat because the face is very concise.
Don't mind tasteful tats ... but can't stand bits of metal hanging out of the body ..... yuk!
... as for having your genitals pierced - insanity - ...
Sorry guys
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having milled around this board for a little while, and getting to know the odd poster a tad better, one (at least i do) gets to wondering what some of you do for work.... i work installing custom hardwood flooring and ceramic tiles, with the odd wc renovation, and was going to start a career last year in avionics, but our friend osama put my plans on the backburner, until (or if) the canadian industry returns to normal.
i am considering going to university to further my photography skills, and am currently (and very slowly) working on a pictorial book that i hope to be published by the time i am 95. oh, and i devote 87643 hours of service to yhwh each month.. your turn.... .
I am not personally career-minded.
I am an artist at heart and do graphic design work (freelance), but also enjoy dabbling with IT (building up PCs 'n' things). Used to work in technical support for big games company (yuk! - crappy job - as dull as dish water).
has anyone here watched the film, the twelve monkey's?.
dislike?
any comments?.
Great movie - got it on VHS somewhere.
Love the twists in the plot and Terry Gilliams wonderful direction and visual input.
Reminds me ever so slightly of Brazil the way it is shot (another class film worth seeing).
ill tell you my best experience in my belief was being totally drunk at my mates wedding surrounded by jehovahs witnesses who were trying to talk to me even though i didnt want to talk to them (and they were the ones who ignored me at meetings lol)and all i could do is smile at them because i couldnt understand what the hell they were speaking about,and i was so happy and they were so offended because i was pis~@d.
Lady Lee -
Those are moving tales. I cannot even imagine what those experiences felt like. To be with somebody when they are dying is a noble act indeed.
I am sorry to hear about your own abusive experiences and hope the years have helped you heal in many ways.
/DC
my views on mr. laden: i dont agree on what he plan out'on 9/11, i still love him tho, we all are brothers & sisters, we all are living under one roof = god the father, earth... i respect him as a human, what he plan out was wrong, but i'm not mad at him, cause satan is the main cause for violence, there bin laden is not my enemy, satan is... also i just wanna say: that i looooooove bin laden clothes, for real, the muslims, and all the other people in the other country's, there dress style is coooool.. with their long beards, and long robes, they remind of the prophets, and all the old time people, moses, noah, jesus, peter, job, etc.... very cool......edited by - legendary u.2.k.
on 17 july 2002 6:52:30.
To be fair to the bearded-loon, it is hard to have an opinion of the mind behind the media image. Although he looks simple and slightly demented. I do tip my hat to his tailer though.
I lack trust when it comes to Bush / Blair / Bin Laden / add other names here. They all have the potential to promote mass murder. None of them are without blood on their hands.
But out of the three names mentioned, I'd rather have Blair as a next door neighbour. Lets face it, Tony is a right old softy and you wouldn't really have to worry about guns going off in his back yard. Whereas Bush / Bin Laden ..... well, it would be AK47s at dawn
13:1 everyone [including brooklyn and elders] must submit himself to the governing authorities, .
rom 13:3-5. do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority?
5 therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.. .
I think you are right Nina, it is important to view the scriptures in context and gain insight through understanding the age of the text and certainly the setting.
JWs take the view (as we know) that you submit to God first, then the authorities .... which can be backed up using Bible law and specific examples from scripture.
Now whether we agree with that principle ourselves, is another matter and the JWs would say - a matter of faith - ...
church at centre of paedophile allegations
http://www.thisisnorthscotland.co.uk/displaynode.jsp?nodeid=62692&command=displaycontent&sourcenode=62244&contentpk=2125157
claire stewart
If the JWs had handled the people of Panorama in this way, and had made sensible statements, like not looking down upon members who deal with the authorities first within these cases, then I'm sure the impression given via the media would have gone in their collective favour.
Its a shame that this refusal to tackle the media head on exists. For an organisation to remain respectable, I think its important to address issues when they arise and not duck for cover and hide behind robotic statements from peers.
This again smacks of unfair control over members to have freedom of thought and action. I was taught before I entered the society, that free thought was encouraged and then once inside found the opposite to be true.
SPIRIT DIRECTING THE JWs
If you had asked me that question several years ago, I would have said that it was a matter of Satan testing the congregations and being allowed to have influence over members - drawing out their desires - as detestable as those desires may be. This would be so, to allow the almighty question of who has absolute rulership to be answered in each individual case. Who really guides the man - SATAN or JAH - ?
However in this particular case (spiritual matters aside), I would say from the outside, that blame exists within the laws laid down to control the congregations. It is a great shame that this has happened. I would not be too harsh on anybody though, as bitching about this endlessly, proves nothing and acheives nothing. Sorrow should go out to the victims and a hope that the people who run the show finally listen to sense and reform their way of conducting internal affairs.
